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Well, General Petraeus pretty much guaranteed us we'd have stuff to talk about today, but before we got into that nonsense, we had a visit from Greg Dworkin, and an opportunity to talk about the hottest topic among at least some parts of Very Serious circles: "epistemic closure." Yes, the Traditional Media is very concerned that Republicans closed themselves off from reality in insisting Romney was going to win. But didn't they have their own problem in closing themselves off from reality in insisting that the numbers didn't show what they in fact did show? From there, it was on to the craziness of the Petraeus story, the even crazier craziness of the volume of email involved, and the even crazier craziness than that: the shirtless Teabagger FBI agent at the center of it all. Your surveillance state national security team, ladies and gentlemen. And as always, a few of the kind of sidebar discussions that make the show what it is. What do I mean? Tune in and find out!

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Category:News & Politics -- posted at: 4:42 PM